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Rhys Bosley

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The fact is that what will pay for any third tier competition (and everything else in Australian Rugby) is the Wallabies. If the Wallabies remain uncompetitive then fans won’t fork out 200 bucks for tickets and there will be no money flow down to anybody below. So the whole of Australian rugby including the third tier needs to be focused on getting the Wallabies out of the doldrums, or these clubs are going to have to run a lot of sausage sizzles to keep their super club competition running.

COMMENT: 'Making a choice' - the key issue facing Australia’s third tier

I am pretty sure that Eddie cares, probably a few other people too.

'Disaster': Wallabies hammered by Boks as Eddie Jones' return falls flat

Trial game? It is the first game of tue Rugby Vhampionship, with ony four to go until the World Cup.

'Disaster': Wallabies hammered by Boks as Eddie Jones' return falls flat

Trial game? It’s the first game of the Rugby Championship, if they are losing by 31 points with only four more games until the World Cup, the Wallabies are stuffed.

'Disaster': Wallabies hammered by Boks as Eddie Jones' return falls flat

So wasting Dave Rennie’s salary for the year to bring in Jones was totally worth it then. Nice one McHamish.

'Disaster': Wallabies hammered by Boks as Eddie Jones' return falls flat

Ehmed looks like Tackleberry from Police Academy in this photo.

'Clean slate': Tahs hope Eddie effect fires players up, 10 battle explained, schoolboy prodigy impresses

This is an excellent article Christy, really challenging rugby in Australia to do better. Well done.

'I sat there bewildered': High Performance guru on the tricks RA missed - and how they must fix the game

I think he may have blown his SRP career for now Nick, all the Aussie jobs are full.

ANALYSIS: Why Eddie was sacked by England, and what he must change to succeed this time around

An Australian Super Rugby coach or Assistant Coach who isn’t unhappy with his job would be stark raving mad to give it up to work for the Wallabies under Jones. Poor Dan McKeller looks like he is short odds to have blown his Aussie career by giving up his head coach role with the Brumbies to be Wallabies assistant coach, just like Larkham did under Cheika. McClennen has had his sights set on Jones for so long was McKeller ever really the heir apparent that he was made out to be at the start? Rugby Australia looks like a rotten employer all round, I wouldn’t touch an organisation like that with a barge pole.

ANALYSIS: Why Eddie was sacked by England, and what he must change to succeed this time around

Perhaps McClennen thinks he is being “tough” by being a sneaky little bully during this episode, but I doubt too many rugby people will be impressed. I always thought he was ok so I am disappointed, I hope he reads your excellent article and improves his approach Geoff.

The Wrap: Rugby Australia get their man but at what cost to their 'junk bond status' reputation?

Thanks BS.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

I am just stating the facts Phil, in the last 12 months in the biggest, richest union in the World, Eddie has not been a good coach at all. What he has done in the past is not as relevant as where he is at now, it was Nick Bishop on this site who wrote late last year that Eddie had run out of ideas, it happens.

Together with the inevitable disruption from the change of coaches, at least at the head and the attack coach level, Eddie being out of ideas is likely to mean that the Wallabies are in more trouble more trouble this year than they were under Rennie. On the attack coach situation, do you not think that Scott Wisemantel’s decision to leave right before Jones was sacked, might have been the result of him seeing the writing on the wall and not liking what it said?

And yes, the Wallabies do have to get a good result this year. McClennen’s entire play is aimed at getting people postive and taliking about rugby again in the lead up to the Lions tour and the World Cups in 2027 and 2029. If the Wallabies get flogged this year and are stuck with the same coach who led the failue for the next four, how do you think the Aussie public will react? The NRL and AFL would have a field day making a mockery of rugby throughout Australia, it would completely destroy the code’s credibility here after the fuss that McClennen and Jones have made about contesting the Aussie sports market.

I personally suspect that Jones would have been available in 2024 no matter what, but that McClennen didn’t want to face the potential embarrassment of not renewing Rennie if the Wallabies did well under his stewardship. In covering himself against that, McClennen has lost the opportunity to make Jones’s coaching a positive clean slate in 2024 if the Wallabies don’t do well, as many expect.

I personally won’t wish the worst on the Wallabies because I like them and Rugby in Australia suffers if they suffers, but if it happens by crikey there are going to get a lot of people get a wakeup call.

WILL GENIA: I was disappointed by Rennie sacking but Eddie's a winner - this is why he's the right choice

“Sure they will….”

Thanks for the big belly laugh at this 😂. I suspect the Eddie fan club might forgive him if he takes the Wallabies to Horan’s low-ball semi-final “pass mark”, but if the Wallabies are booted in the quarters, he will be turned upon in a flash and nobody will want to admit backing him.

WILL GENIA: I was disappointed by Rennie sacking but Eddie's a winner - this is why he's the right choice

If Eddie was “The World’s best coach” he would have a World Cup to his name instead of two lost finals. In 2022 with all of England’s talent, he failed to beat every team that the Wallabies have to beat next year in the lead up to the World Cup, at least Rennie beat the Boks and Argentina once a piece. Then he has to beat Argentina or England to get past the quarters. Finally he doesn’t have an attack coach, that is even if he keeps the Wallabies current assistants.

Putting aside the way Rennie was treated, this is the biggest Hail Mary play by McClennen ever and nobody is going to give them beyond this year to get sorted, if it all goes to Kak.

WILL GENIA: I was disappointed by Rennie sacking but Eddie's a winner - this is why he's the right choice

I have spoken to CD today, said all I have to say and indicated that I will neither be contributing to the Roar any more nor directing any more criticism at the way it is being run. Therefore you will need to draw your own conclusions about my meaning of self glorification.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

Yes and all the people here saying similar things, including your own experts, must just be the voices in my head 😂

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

Lol, you got me.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

A sugar hit of clicks from this garbage is only likely to yield short term success, the brand damage will lead to long term failure. It is a competitive internet and there are plenty of Australians who know far more about rugby than the people mentioned, I don’t think it will be too long before existing alternatives flourish and/or new ones emerge.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

This article suggests to me that the Roar has now lost any semblance of independence now. Christy Doran is clearly just a mouthpiece for Rugby Australia leaders and anybody else when they want dirty work done.
Christy’s and the Roar’s reputation is now so invested in Eddie Jones succeeding because of the part he has played in getting him into the job, that it will be very difficult if not impossible for him to report objectively on the Wallabies from now on. This whole story over the last month has just beena sugar hit for this place, which has completely trashed the brand.
Well done Tony and Christy, you’ve romped on and ruined a place a lot of people enjoyed, for the sake of your own self glorification.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

You must have missed the beginning of last season, when the SMH effectively out a wish-list of Tahs players to be selected, despite underwhelming results at that time.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

Nonsense to the last part about EJ working with DR, it was clearly not a workable proposition. They just wanted DR gone once EJ was available but lacked the guts to just make the call based on the review. I can’t bring myself to hope that the Wallabies fail, but I will enjoy watching these grubs be humiliated if they do.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

I would have less of a problem with them making a decision, even I I don’t agree with it,if they kept it under wraps and just announced it after a proper rreview. It it the bullying the Rennie through the media backgrounding, to try to force him out or to get him say something that gives them an excuse to sack them that makes me want to spew. What a horrible bunch of people all involved are, I hope they get their cumuppance.

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

Wow, there really is a sucker born every second isn’t there. It is pretty clear that McDermott wasn’t picked more often because the Waratahs captain Jake Grodon needed to be accommodated because of demands from the Sydney media, despite not being a patch on Tate. They are dropping these lines about Queensland players like Tate and Vunivalu inro the media, to get Queenslanders onside after those disgraceful sacking. Rugby Australia are the biggest pack of deceitful, two faced grubs I have ever observed, I just never realised that the problem goes all the way to the top!

Revealed: The meetings that convinced Rugby Australia to go all in on Eddie Jones for the World Cup

Very good point, the players have far more options now than the players did 20 years ago, and are far less tolerant of abuse. This isn’t England where most get the big pay packets to play at home.

ANALYSIS: Why Rennie had to go and the ruthless Eddie edge that makes the Wallabies World Cup contenders

Like I said, we will find out whether it was right or wrong at the World Cup. If it is going to be a cut-throat, performance based business, then those principles apply to all.

'Major coup': Rennie axed with Eddie Jones returning as Wallabies coach on mammoth deal for two Cups

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